The committee is looking for CIS and CSE student representatives. If you are a BS-CIS or BS-CSE major and are interested in being on the committee, please email neelam AT cse.
Winter: |
(Meetings on Fridays at 3:30-4:30 am in DL 698.) Feb. 12; Jan. 29; Jan. 22; |
Autumn: |
(Meetings on Fridays at 9:30-10:30 am in DL 698.) Dec. 4; |
The meeting was adjourned at 4:35 pm.
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Qtr 4-qtr. admits Wi '10 236 Wi '09 203 Wi '08 182 Wi '07 149 Wi '06 133(Note: Each year, the number of students admitted in any quarter varies quite a bit from quarter to quarter; by summing up over a 4-quarter period, we get a more reliable estimate of the trends.)
Based on our current (tenure-track) faculty strength, we should be admitting around 180-190 students per year. Clearly, we are substantially over that figure and the trend seems headed even higher. In the past, when we have had this problem, we have addressed it by requiring students applying to the major to have a specified minimum GPA in order to be admitted to the major. This is an enrollment-management scheme that the university approved many years ago and is intended to be used only for enrollment management (not for quality control, etc). If we were to impose a GPA requirement, the effect on enrollments, based on recent grade distributions, would be as follows (assuming that the current 4-qtr admits is between 230 and 240):
GPA Predicted no. of 4-qtr admits (range) 2.0 230-240 (current situation) 2.1 221-230 2.2 212-221 2.3 202-211 2.4 195-202 2.5 188-195 2.6 180-188 2.7 175-180 ...The committee felt that we should seriously considering imposing a 2.4 GPA requirement. This would apply to pre-majors who apply to enter the CSE or CIS major for Sp '11 or later; these would essentially be students who enter OSU in Au '10 (or later).
The committee felt it was important to do this for two reasons: First, if it turns out that the number of students seeking to enter the CIS/CSE majors declines, we can eliminate the requirement with immediate effect; i.e., while we must give adequate notice of an increase in the GPA requirement, a reduction in the GPA requirement can become effective immediately. Second, if we don't do this and the demand for the majors keeps increasing, we will face a very serious situation; we may have to close students out of required courses and they may have to postpone graduation etc.
In order to impose this requirement, our faculty has to approve it, then we have to inform the colleges (so that applicants to OSU who are interested in CIS/CSE receive this information as part of the letter from OSU offering them admission to OSU), and inform current pre-majors so that they don't delay applying to the major and become subject to the 2.4 requirement.
UGSC recommends to the faculty that a requirement of 2.4 GPA be imposed effective Spring 2011, i.e., pre-majors who apply to enter the CSE or CIS major for Sp '11 or later.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:30 pm.
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It was therefore proposed that the requirements for this option be changed as follows: Required: CSE 677; ECE 561; Math 415, or 568, or 571; and capstone design course, CSE 778 recommended; plus 16-17 hours of electives of which at least 13 must be CSE hours. The following courses are recommended: CSE 651, 652, 678, 679.
After a brief discussion, the committee approved this proposal. If anyone on the faculty has comments on this, pleas email Neelam. Otherwise, this will become the hardware-software option.
The committee next week to discuss this further. In the meantim, Peg will try to obtain data on recent grade distribution data for sophomores so that we can pick an appropriate number based on current grade distribution data rather than old data.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:20 pm.
Next meeting: 1/29/'10
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30
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